Elders School 2017: New instructions to handle sexual abuses?

by sp74bb in

an informant in spanish forum, active elder in a congregation in madrid (spain) has posted new info regarding elders school 2017. important changes are to be done for "child" or sexual abuses.

https://abusostj.vbulletin.net/forum/main-forum/audiencias-judiciales/5506-escuela-de-ancianos-2017.

doing a summary:.

Kingdom Hall Renovation Question: Who Pays?

by breakfast of champions in

so last night it was announced at the local hall that the ldc had decided against building a new hall, and that the existing hall would be "renovated.

the prospect of a new hall has been dangled before this congregation for at least 10 years now.

in fact, the congregation had already purchased property, had approval from the rbc for a new hall.

Up grade the property(KH), sell the other property, call it even then later beg for more funds from the indoctrinated to cover WT loss's on the deal, rob them(Congregation) of their surplus with at a later date by a GB sponsored announcement to hand over funds in the form of pledges.

And in the upgrade make the property for saleable at a later date to generate cash for an organization run by a bunch of delusional bumbling Idiots who hate getting a higher education because they might learn something and come out of mind control.

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Class Action Lawsuit Against The Watchtower Corporation By The Multitude Left Penniless After A Vow Of Poverty And Obediance Lasting Decades

by Brokeback Watchtower in

well i think as the exposure becomes greater of the wt hypocrisy and cover up that the likelihood of this happening great.

no retirement funds for all those laid off when they were no longer profitable due to old age has got to bite these guys in the ass some day.. and maybe in the process of man's enlighten world view and a better understanding the cruelty of disfellowshipping member and enforcing a communication ban ones family members may open them up from another class action lawsuit over such egregious action caused by a religious printing organization domination over peoples action through deceit and clever lies about supernatural claims of authority.. either way i think they are going to need a lot of outside legal help in the future as lawsuits will pile up around the world which that alone could dry up all their funds in defense costs..

Brokeback Watchtower

The religious freedoms granted by the constitution is manly for the person not those claiming to run a religion.

Disfellowshipping someone and enforce a shunning on them by other members for their changing religious beliefs violates the constitutions granted freedom, when you really take some time to think about it with any depth. Your application of it for protecting shunning requirement is too superficial IMO.

And you are dead wrong about not applying to belief systems:

https://www.bigclassaction.com/settlement/romancatholicarchdiocese.php

https://religionscell.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/3-billion-jehovah_s-witnesses-class-action-over-child-abuse-jw-news-jehovahs-witnesses.pdf

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France: Where all donations are going? Germany?

by sp74bb in

source: http://www.journal-officiel.gouv.fr/publications/assoccpt/pdf/2015/3108/398996694_31082015.pdf.

"nothing is hidden.

jehovah's eyes sees everything.

Brokeback Watchtower

Yup according to their business report they have had to leave many project unfinished due to a serious lack of funds except the GB's new home on a chemical waste clean up site and England's new chemical contaminated site these are the only ones they are suppose to finish,, but I wonder if they ever really will with all their denial that is going on. Even though they robbed all these congregations with forced pledges of money from them which they can't refuse unless they want trouble from the organization.

They're in bigger trouble then they ever will admit to because of extreme denial even when they are up their necks in deep shit financially with a zero credit rating.

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Class Action Lawsuit Against The Watchtower Corporation By The Multitude Left Penniless After A Vow Of Poverty And Obediance Lasting Decades

by Brokeback Watchtower in

well i think as the exposure becomes greater of the wt hypocrisy and cover up that the likelihood of this happening great.

no retirement funds for all those laid off when they were no longer profitable due to old age has got to bite these guys in the ass some day.. and maybe in the process of man's enlighten world view and a better understanding the cruelty of disfellowshipping member and enforcing a communication ban ones family members may open them up from another class action lawsuit over such egregious action caused by a religious printing organization domination over peoples action through deceit and clever lies about supernatural claims of authority.. either way i think they are going to need a lot of outside legal help in the future as lawsuits will pile up around the world which that alone could dry up all their funds in defense costs..

Brokeback Watchtower

I'm thinking that these class action lawsuits could set up a superfund with much of it going to those who will need proper help with financial and psychological issues due to this unfair form of slavery they have been under for many years. Perhaps the pay out could be in the order a fair wage for those years of slavery and a grant of money set aside /available for psychological counseling. I think these should be common human decency/rights requirement that should be heard in courts all over Europe, USA, Russia, every where they practice slave labor vow of poverty and servitude and complete unquestioning obedience with the threat of disfellowshipment,, they should have to loose money to be fair as a remedy for their violation of human rights.

The sooner the better because the way things look they can't last very long financially so get it while you can or the getting good.

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Class Action Lawsuit Against The Watchtower Corporation By The Multitude Left Penniless After A Vow Of Poverty And Obediance Lasting Decades

by Brokeback Watchtower in

well i think as the exposure becomes greater of the wt hypocrisy and cover up that the likelihood of this happening great.

no retirement funds for all those laid off when they were no longer profitable due to old age has got to bite these guys in the ass some day.. and maybe in the process of man's enlighten world view and a better understanding the cruelty of disfellowshipping member and enforcing a communication ban ones family members may open them up from another class action lawsuit over such egregious action caused by a religious printing organization domination over peoples action through deceit and clever lies about supernatural claims of authority.. either way i think they are going to need a lot of outside legal help in the future as lawsuits will pile up around the world which that alone could dry up all their funds in defense costs..

Brokeback Watchtower

I'm thinking there has to be some laws against being forced to submit to such an outlandish judicial system and be disfellowshipped from family and friends as a result of a kangaroo court system designed to keep the members in submission to the corporations commands and laws.

And the required vow of poverty and obedience on a duped reader of your propaganda must violate human rights laws I'm sure, especially when these vows are used to enslave people with it, and then just dump them off when no longer needed with little in the form of compensation for their years of slave labor low wage service. This has got to violate some type of slave labor law in my thinking.

kangaroo court

a travesty of a court where there maybe some of the paraphernalia or procedure of a court but the essence of a court hearing is absent, i.e. a fair hearing. See NATURAL JUSTICE, FAIR HEARING, EUROPEAN CONVENTION ON HUMAN RIGHTS.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/European+Convention+on+Human+Rights

European Convention on Human Rights

more fully, the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms, a charter designed to further the goals of the EUROPEAN COUNCIL. Its members accept that citizens should enjoy human rights. Civil and political freedoms are enumerated: the right to life; freedom from torture or inhuman treatment; freedom from slavery and forced labour; the right to liberty and freedom from detention save in accord with the law; the right to fair administration of justice; respect for privacy and the family; the right to peaceful assembly; the right not to be discriminated against. Over the years protocols have added new rights: the protection of property; a parent's right to choose education; a right to free elections; liberty from prison for inability to meet a contract; free movement; the right not to be expelled from one's natural home. Many of the rights are subject to provisos on the basis of public order, public security and the need to guard the freedom of others. The Convention is upheld in the EUROPEAN COURT OF HUMAN RIGHTS. The law applies in the UK as a result of the Scotland Act 1998 and the Human Rights Act 1998. The UK courts maybe approached directly for reparation for infringement of their human rights by a public

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Class Action Lawsuit Against The Watchtower Corporation By The Multitude Left Penniless After A Vow Of Poverty And Obediance Lasting Decades

by Brokeback Watchtower in

well i think as the exposure becomes greater of the wt hypocrisy and cover up that the likelihood of this happening great.

no retirement funds for all those laid off when they were no longer profitable due to old age has got to bite these guys in the ass some day.. and maybe in the process of man's enlighten world view and a better understanding the cruelty of disfellowshipping member and enforcing a communication ban ones family members may open them up from another class action lawsuit over such egregious action caused by a religious printing organization domination over peoples action through deceit and clever lies about supernatural claims of authority.. either way i think they are going to need a lot of outside legal help in the future as lawsuits will pile up around the world which that alone could dry up all their funds in defense costs..

Brokeback Watchtower

Good point:

You just need a good lawyer to convince the jury. I'd be one to vote in favor of the plaintiffs. . . . Doc

That what I think too. You just need the right lawyer who know what to go after these clown with, and the meanness and guilt are not hard to prove to a jury if approached from the right angle.
I'm sure some sharp lawyer can do that and hopefully will do it.

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Class Action Lawsuit Against The Watchtower Corporation By The Multitude Left Penniless After A Vow Of Poverty And Obediance Lasting Decades

by Brokeback Watchtower in

well i think as the exposure becomes greater of the wt hypocrisy and cover up that the likelihood of this happening great.

no retirement funds for all those laid off when they were no longer profitable due to old age has got to bite these guys in the ass some day.. and maybe in the process of man's enlighten world view and a better understanding the cruelty of disfellowshipping member and enforcing a communication ban ones family members may open them up from another class action lawsuit over such egregious action caused by a religious printing organization domination over peoples action through deceit and clever lies about supernatural claims of authority.. either way i think they are going to need a lot of outside legal help in the future as lawsuits will pile up around the world which that alone could dry up all their funds in defense costs..

Brokeback Watchtower

I wonder if the Zalkin Law Firm would be interested in starting a Class Action against the WT corporation in some form to get these guys on something along these lines? It sure would be nice to cut the balls off their disfellowshipping by secret trial arrangement and make them pay restitution to those harmed by it. Enforced shunning of family members must carry some penalties when done maliciously especially against whistle blowers who are wise to the scam and want to warn others family and friends.

What would he recommend as a proper class action against them?

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Class Action Lawsuit Against The Watchtower Corporation By The Multitude Left Penniless After A Vow Of Poverty And Obediance Lasting Decades

by Brokeback Watchtower in

well i think as the exposure becomes greater of the wt hypocrisy and cover up that the likelihood of this happening great.

no retirement funds for all those laid off when they were no longer profitable due to old age has got to bite these guys in the ass some day.. and maybe in the process of man's enlighten world view and a better understanding the cruelty of disfellowshipping member and enforcing a communication ban ones family members may open them up from another class action lawsuit over such egregious action caused by a religious printing organization domination over peoples action through deceit and clever lies about supernatural claims of authority.. either way i think they are going to need a lot of outside legal help in the future as lawsuits will pile up around the world which that alone could dry up all their funds in defense costs..

Brokeback Watchtower

I think a good legal team make a case for the deception used to get them into servitude and abuse by the WT corp. and show them to be malicious in their use of deception, and liable.

They can show how information from a source other than them corporation was purposely silenced by the cruel practice of Disfellowshipping any member who spoke out about anything negative about the corporation or any disbelief. And so were at the mercy of a bunch of maniacal corporation despots who demoralized them into abject servitude by mean of information control strictly enforced with severe penalties for trespassers in the form of disfelloshipping those who spoke against policies or outrageous claims of the corporation or it hierarchy G.O.D(guardian of doctrine).

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Class Action Lawsuit Against The Watchtower Corporation By The Multitude Left Penniless After A Vow Of Poverty And Obediance Lasting Decades

by Brokeback Watchtower in

well i think as the exposure becomes greater of the wt hypocrisy and cover up that the likelihood of this happening great.

no retirement funds for all those laid off when they were no longer profitable due to old age has got to bite these guys in the ass some day.. and maybe in the process of man's enlighten world view and a better understanding the cruelty of disfellowshipping member and enforcing a communication ban ones family members may open them up from another class action lawsuit over such egregious action caused by a religious printing organization domination over peoples action through deceit and clever lies about supernatural claims of authority.. either way i think they are going to need a lot of outside legal help in the future as lawsuits will pile up around the world which that alone could dry up all their funds in defense costs..

Brokeback Watchtower

Well I think as the exposure becomes greater of the WT hypocrisy and cover up that the likelihood of this happening great. No retirement funds for all those laid off when they were no longer profitable due to old age has got to bite these guys in the ass some day.

And maybe in the process of man's enlighten world view and a better understanding the cruelty of disfellowshipping member and enforcing a communication ban ones family members may open them up from another class action lawsuit over such egregious action caused by a religious printing organization domination over peoples action through deceit and clever lies about supernatural claims of authority.

Either way I think they are going to need a lot of outside legal help in the future as lawsuits will pile up around the world which that alone could dry up all their funds in defense costs.

Brokeback Watchtower

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kangaroo court

European Convention on Human Rights